If they will not agree to this condition they unwittingly confirm the fact that this is not a foolproof method for determining truth. Is praying a sufficient method for determining the truth about the book of mormon. Furthermore, joe smiths claim of going to the woods to pray was a trick to lure people into the snare of worshiping false gods. Now i have prayed about the book of mormon and i did get that feeling that it was true. May 25, 2012 why dont mormons pray directly to jesus.
Kimball in his first press conference after he became president of the church. What do you do if you pray to know that the book of mormon is. Principles are concentrated truth, packaged for application to a wide variety of circumstances. Regarded by the church of jesus christ of latterday saints as holy scripture detailing gods revelation to. Mormonism loves me so long as i don t act like me, don t follow my heart, and deny who i really am. Keep the focus on the reading from the scriptures, and making connections in our journals. I personally do not agree with it, but i do beleive that when you are praying, about anything, you are recognizing god and fellowshiping with him, and he loves that and will take care of the rest. When we read the book of mormon, do we pray about it. Obviously, this is an extremely dangerous trap for the unwary because we are told that we have standard works for a reason and you arent going to find something new that contradict.
The book of mormon is one of the most influentiala as well as controversiala religious documents in american history, and is regarded as sacred scripture by followers around the world, including members of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints, the fourthlargest. At times i have found myself slipping into prayer routines where i just say the same things and dont put effort into meaningful prayer. When mormon missionaries properly called latter day saints or simply lds come to your door, they will often offer a free copy of the book of mormon and tell you about its author, joseph smith. Only those as humble as little children, with pure hearts can see the kingdom of god. Oct 22, 2008 prayer is conversation with our heavenly father. Christians believe the bible when it says not to pray for a sign. We don t believe that you have to be perfect to go to heaven. This book is much more entertaining if you read it as a historical novel rather than trying to read it as a religious text. Along with the book, they had left a pamphlet about the prophet joseph smith and also some instructions about how to pray to god.
Mar 23, 2016 funny church signs don t pray about the book of mormon. Introduction to the book of mormon if you missed last week dont stress. Im so excited to share a new interactive note sheet, two scripture signs, and a couple family activities with you today. Mar 23, 2011 is praying a sufficient method for determining the truth about the book of mormon.
Lds are key lds teachings derived from the book of mormon. What do you do if you pray to know that the book of mormon. Mormonism loves me so long as i dont act like me, dont. I was in a mission prep class with about 20 priests and laurels. Following numerous discussions regarding the authenticity of the book of mormon, i have been asked by the zealous latterday saint to forget what i have learned in order to pray about truth. I also dont think that any church would make a public sign like this.
If you talk with mormon missionaries for any length of time, at some point, they are going to instruct you to read the book of mormon and to pray for a direct revelation of god that the book is true. Jun 09, 2007 will you read, pray and ask god if the book of mormon, is gods word. What ever you do, dont pray about the book of mormon. The book of mormon invites people to read and pray if it is true, made known by the holy ghost. Recently my brotherinlaw posted a picture on facebook of a sign at a church that read don t pray about the book of mormon thats how they get you. The bible teaches us whyand even howgod wants us to pray to him. I dont see in any other book of scripture, such a deep emphasis on the importance of what a parent teaches. Resources to help you teach 2 nephi 33 this is the way. This week are studying lehis vision in 1 nephi 810. To prove my point, ask your mormon acquaintance if heshe will renounce joseph smith and the lds church if you were to pray about the book of mormon and, as a result, felt that god told you it was not scripture. Why you shouldnt ask god if the book of mormon is true. Book of mormon witnesses consistently reaffirmed their testimony. To pray with real intent means to stand prepared to act upon the answers we receive.
Moore january 5, 2012 this is chapter one from women of the book of mormon. See how the book of mormon talks and testifies of christ. What about those who pray and dont receive a confirmation the book of mormon is true. Why dont mormons pray to mary or have statues of her. Will you read, pray and ask god if the book of mormon, is gods word. Is praying over the book of mormon circular reasoning. Todays lds reference shows one of the ways the church has deceived people. My topic for discussion here is the challenge of the book of mormon. Just as in school, if we dont understand something, we ask a teacher to help us understand. Mormons dont study his word, nor do they have any intention of doing so. As reported in the book of mormon, certain objects were passed down from generation to generation by the nephite leaders. The decision to use the word challenge came from a remark by president spencer w. Place the book of mormon in your heart byu speeches.
The book of mormon teaches the importance of prayer. Scott define principles you dont have to regurgitate the definition, but be able to recognize it. Whenever a mormon suggests we should pray to find out whether the book of mormon is true, we should begin by pointing out that this idea comes from the book of mormon itself. So you dont believe in the importance of obeying god because we love him. Dont pray about the book of mormon, thats how they get you. Learning to pray as jesus prayed religious studies. Apr 06, 2010 what ever you do, dont pray about the book of mormon. The missionaries told me to read the book of mormon and pray about it. Both lehi and his son nephi, the first two book of mormon prophets, saw mary in. And he did travel in the wilderness with his family, which consisted of my mother, sariah, and my elder brothers, who. If you have a bible study with them, they will ask you to pray over the book of mormon. I responded by saying, no, i dont think anyone should pray that prayer.
I dont see why he wouldnt want us to ask him something that we didnt know. Nowhere in all of the book of mormon is the subject of prayer taught and. Log in or sign up to leave a comment log in sign up. Recently my brotherinlaw posted a picture on facebook of a sign at a church that read dont pray about the book of mormon thats how they get you.
Mormons and biblical discussion group public group facebook. Come follow me bofm podcast, he works in me to do his. They claim that, in response to this prayer, you will receive good feelings, and those good feelings are the voice of god confirming the book and. Why dont mormons read, ponder and pray about a book that. He grew up in logan, and knew young men like elder price. And it came to pass that we had a talk with the neighborhood mormons today, and they bestowed upon us the book of mormon.
That isn t love, its just manipulation and control. They use the book of mormon to try establish joseph smith as a prophet and then you are introduced to more of their false doctrines, by the doctrine and covenants, pearl of great price, etc. I challenge you to read the book of mormon and pray about it, and you will see that it is true, just as i also have read and prayed about it and know in my heart that it is true. Smith, they will say, translated the book of mormon from golden plates he dug up in a hill in new york in the early 1800s. Dont worry, we will never share or sell your information. Hugh nibley described these items as the nephite national treasure.
When luke monday was cast as the understudy for the lead role in the book of mormon, he didnt have to look far for inspiration. If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of god, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not. Watch one of the book of mormon experiments then try it yourself. When we take the book of mormon into our hearts, we have more love for our father in heaven and his only begotten son, our savior. If one does not agree with the book of mormon, then why not pray to god to change that, and if you do agree with it, then why not pray.
Why i wont be seeing the book of mormon musical in auckland. What to do if you dont know the book of mormon is true. Book of mormon map make more sense out of scripture study with young kids book of mormon map to print. Both lehi and his son nephi, the first two book of mormon prophets, saw mary in visions. Honestly, because of the sheer volume of anachronistic errors contained in joseph smiths book, even trying to read it as a novel is taxing. Jul 25, 2015 why we should not pray about the book of mormon. Why we should not pray about the book of mormon tom. Since the book of mormon claims to be an authentic historical recordof people, places, things, dates, and eventsthese underlying facts can and should be examined. I also don t think that any church would make a public sign like this. Thus, i would argue that we should not pray about the mormon religion and the book of mormon. Pray vocally every day, pray always in your hearts, always remember the lord. Mormons pray directly to god, through jesus christ.
Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name immanuel. See more funny church signs images on know your meme. In the book of mormon, parents words and prayers empower their children, stay with them in the most difficult times, fortify them even when it looks as if they have been tossed aside. Insights and inspirations, originally published by covenant communications, inc. There is nothing about a testimony that requires it to be legally binding or hand written. My family wasnt really active in the church at the time but my grandma had asked me if i had read the book of mormon. Now, i love the book of mormon, as a volume of scripture, and i love musicbut i have decided i wont be seeing the book of mormon musical. All prayers should include the caveat thy will be done. As we sat discussing important doctrines, they asked me a question that invariably arises in every discussion with mormon missionaries.
This in itself is problematic and amounts to a logical fallacy known as begging the question or circular reasoning. You sigh and you recognize that was the obvious reality all along. Instead, we ought to submit to gods voice in the scriptures and adore the one true god in all of existence. This week we start to study the first book of nephi. Somehow im not surprised orson scott card and stephanie meyer don t recognize an uninspired sequel when they see one. Eyrings talk has done the same thing smiths claim did. Funny church signs dont pray about the book of mormon.
We try to bring our lives into accordance with gods will. The spiritual text that forms the basis of mormonisma in the last edition edited by its founder, joseph smith, jr. They are sort of picky about not wanting people to call them the mormon church because in the book of mormon, which mormons use with the bible, jesus says that if you call a church by the name of a person, it is that persons church. Book of mormon character is familiar to utahn whos. When missionaries are confronted with arguments against the book of mormon, they are taught to ignore the evidence and pray to see if the book of mormon is true. Isaiah said, 14 therefore the lord himself shall give you a sign.
There is more required than simply praying in order to. Since many churches consider the book of mormon scripture, even if one receives a testimony of the book of mormon, it itself provides no direction as to which church to join. Pick a few that will best help your family understand and relate to lehis. I don t see why he wouldn t want us to ask him something that we didn t know.
Dont pray about the book of mormon, thats how they get. Though i have seen and laughed at this sign many times before, this time i felt a need to address this topic. Just as in school, if we don t understand something, we ask a teacher to help us understand. Dont read the book of mormon, that is how they get you. Moronis gives us the requirements that need to be fulfilled in order to obtain a confirmation. Join or sign in congregational forums are now christians only new rule about videos changes in the life stages section prayer banner. The power of the book of mormon is a great lesson to strengthen and share testimonies. Nov 26, 2011 recently my brotherinlaw posted a picture on facebook of a sign at a church that read don t pray about the book of mormon thats how they get you. Nowhere does the bible ever direct the believing christian to pray about the truthfulness of any book, religious or otherwise.
You recognize that you didnt even need to pray to know the bo. Why you shouldnt pray about the book of mormon youtube. The promise in the book of mormon is that if we will pray to know its truth, the holy ghost will help us understand. Mar 09, 2020 there lies the bait to believe their book of mormon. When you tell the missionaries you dont need to pray about the book of mormon, theyll think youre afraid to learn the truth. A common appeal from mormon friends and acquaintances is this. What about those who pray and don t receive a confirmation the book of mormon is true. The challenge of the book of mormon religious studies center. If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of god who giveth to all men liberally and upbraideth not and it shall be given him. You may have seen the ads promoting the book of mormon musical, which is coming to auckland this month. The book of mormon witnesses were not making a legal statement like the founding fathers were with their handwritten letter.
There are numerous amazing resources for this week dont stress about trying them all. It is indeed a rarity to finish a discussion with a mormon without being challenged to read and pray about the book of mormon. Learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools. Problems with the book of mormon catholic answers catholic. What do you do if you pray to know that the book of mormon is historical and the answer from god comes back as no. But the 1981 version is more readable because of its. In the book of mormon, parents words and prayers empower their children, stay with them in the most difficult times, fortify them even when it. This is seen in how they incorporate other works of man. Just dont ask god if the book of mormon is true, that would be a huge mistake.
I remember when i first gained a simple testimony of the book of mormon. We dont need to pray about whether we should steal, lie, or obey our parents, because god has already told us what he desires for us to do. I know, scot, that you took enoss example, but went to a mountain. Introduction to the book of mormon if you missed last week don t stress. The book of mormon persuades all to believe in christ 2 nephi 33 in 2 nephi 33, nephi says why he is writing to persuade all to believe in jesus christ. Apr 21, 2009 these two teachings are important because they explain why we dont feel we need to pray to mary in order to get gods attention. Some christians would argue that you are quite literally opening yourself up to evil spirit influence if you do this pray about bom. Mormons pray to a god they dont know life after ministry. Book of mormontruthfulness dont know the reasons for a commandment, we can receive blessings. Then, i recently was talking about enos with a friend, and he said he, too, had gone to the woods to pray. It is sometimes explained that if were in a noisy room, we will notice, despite the din, the voice of someone we know and love. How the irreverent the book of mormon led to one nashville mans conversion. The truth is, it is because i do believe in the sacredness of prayer that i dont pray about what i believe to be nothing more than a 19th century novel.
And regardless, judges dont handsign their decisions of court proceedings, so apparently handsignatures dont matter in legal contexts either. I prefer the 1830 one because it is the original translation that joseph smith is reported to have done from the golden plates. The musical returns to nashville on tuesday for a sixday run at the tennessee performing arts center. When i read the book of mormon, i use the original 1830 version and the 1981 version. Mar 19, 2002 when we read the book of mormon, do we pray about it. Why we should not pray about the book of mormon tom schmidt. Why didnt the book of mormon witnesses sign their testimony. I dont think the location matters because it can be right in our own bedroom, but there is something magnificent to learn about prayer from enos in his book. But the 1981 version is more readable because of its clearer sectional and verse breakdown. This is because mormonism teaches a view of god that is contrary to the bible. Would you be willing to pray and sincerely ask god if the book of mormon 1 is true. There is more required than simply praying in order to receive a confirmation of the truthfulness of the book of mormon. We dont believe that you have to be perfect to go to heaven. As i pondered on how i could improve the quality of my prayers, i decided to see how people prayed in the book of mormon.
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